Why is "Kiev Love" (kievlove.co.ua) on my "Hell No" List?

In my OPINION...

Based on the reports that I have received...

It APPEARS that this site/agency...

This is another case of 'birds of a feather."

Avoid both.

UPDATE - MAY 2009

They are also an affiliate of Army of Brides (army-of-brides.com) - another scam agency. Can it get any worse?

Here is some info about them...

Jim: 

I was writing to 15 women in Kiev through ****.  I suggested 
meeting times for all of them for my trip to Kiev.  They all disappeared,  except a
few who told me to contact agencies.  When I got to Kiev about a  week later
they were all gone.  A few had written that they were not  available.  Three
had told me to contact agencies.  The other 9 did  not write back.  Only one
wrote back agreeing to meet.  It was  Irina. 
_http://www.****.com/17154.html_
(http://www.****.com/17154.html) .   I sent her my new Kiev
cell phone number and confirmed our meeting time and  place.  Irina wrote
back saying it was a wrong number.  But then  Valentina called me.  This is
Valentina.  _http://kievlove.co.ua/view.php?l=&id=0000000065_
(http://kievlove.co.ua/view.php?l=&id=0000000065) .   I never met Irina.  Valentina
had read the email I thought I was sending to  Irina and taken my new kiev cell phone number
from it and called me.  She  said I had to pay $50 to meet Irina.  I said no,
that I wasn't paying  twice, because I had already been corresponding.  The
time for the date  passed.
 
I never met any single woman I'd written to through ****, except  Veronika.
 
The next day Valentina called me and said I could meet women I was writing 
to on **** for free, and others for half price, at $25.  I never 
met Irina.  I met Veronika, who spoke almost no English.  We had  coffee and I
had to end the date after 45 minutes because she wouldn't get off  the phone. 
This is Veronika on Valentina's site,
_http://kievlove.co.ua/view.php?l=&id=0000000067_
(http://kievlove.co.ua/view.php?l=&id=0000000067) ;  and on dream
marriage.  _http://www.****.com/21620.html_
(http://www.****.com/21620.html) .
 
This having become a fraud investigation as much as anything else, I  decided
to meet a few women through Valentina.  One woman told how her  brother is a
policeman who stops foreigners and takes their money.  Another  explained that
her job audition to be a translator for an agency was to write  letters to
foreign men pretending to be interested in them.  Valentina runs 
_www.kievlove.co.ua_ (http://www.kievlove.co.ua) .  I cannot  determine her
association with ****, except to confirm there is  information sharing.
 
Another date through Valentina didn't show and was "replaced" on 45-minutes 
notice by Tatyana, _http://kievlove.co.ua/view.php?l=&id=0000000149_
(http://kievlove.co.ua/view.php?l=&id=0000000149) .   I was told Tatyana was already in
a taxi and that it would cost $15.   Tatyana refused to go anywhere nearby
for coffee, and knowing we only had 45  minutes for a date due to scheduling
concerns she walked us all the way down  Kresatuk street to TGI Fridays, refusing
all other coffee places on the  way, where she tried to order a $40 steak. 
Tatyana was frumpy, not  elegant or graceful, and had a hairy upper lip with
somewhat thick, black  hair.  When I put a stop to the steak she ordered $35
worth of drinks  and food while I had a Sprite. I left her there feasting away to
go to my next  meeting after paying.  The day ended with Valentina arranging
a meeting  with my "top choice", Polina,
_http://kievlove.co.ua/view.php?l=&id=0000000159_
(http://kievlove.co.ua/view.php?l=&id=0000000159) ,  who marched
off when I was about to pay Valentina the $25 for the meeting,  claiming she
was offended that I was paying in front of her.  Maybe that  was not perfect
thinking on my part - but not grounds to walk off, especially  for someone
really interested in meeting.  Valentina alleged she had told  me something like
this would happen if I didn't pay in advance....except, she  hadn't.  The whole
thing seemed calculated to get me to make payments in  advance.  Valentina
knew this was near the end of my time in Kiev.
 
I had seen Valentina before, last December, when I also visited Kiev (but 
not using ****).  I had arranged a date with Ekaterina through 
****.  Here is a photo of her on Valentina's web  site. 
_http://kievlove.co.ua/view.php?l=&id=0000000010_
(http://kievlove.co.ua/view.php?l=&id=0000000010) .   When I got to TGI Fridays for
our date, Valentina was there
instead!   Imagine my surprise.  She said Ekaterina had to meet at another
time, and  wanted to show me a binder with lots of photos of other women.  I
declined  the binder option and finally did meet Ekaterina, but she was cold,
rude, and  took us to a restaurant and ordered an expensive meal while barely
speaking to  me.
 
I have also noticed that **** sends out form emails that were  not
written by the ladies.  In fact, ladies I have met in person in Kiev  have
"written" me on ****.
 
In short, **** appears to be a total scam, and
_www.kievlove.co.ua_ (http://www.kievlove.co.ua)  appears to be about 90%  scam.
 
Valentina knew when I was returning to my home country.  In fact, a  number
of "ladies" had written to me on **** saying they could not  meet me
but asking how long I would be in Kiev and where I was staying.   This
appears to be all information that they use to help get money out of you -  from
paying for dates in advance that do not materialize to writing lots of new 
emails to you after they know you are gone.  Along these lines, the day  Valentina
knew I was leaving Kiev by airplane, I received 9 emails from the  other
ladies on ****, all claiming they just received my messages  were very
sorry to miss me and that they wanted me to come back.
 
So before you arrange a date through **** or Kiev Love, just 
remember you aren't getting a date with a beautiful woman, like
_http://kievlove.co.ua/view.php?l=&id=0000000010_
(http://kievlove.co.ua/view.php?l=&id=0000000010) ,  or
_http://www.****.com/17154.html_
(http://www.****.com/17154.html) .   You're getting a date with Valentina:
_http://kievlove.co.ua/view.php?l=&id=0000000010_
(http://kievlove.co.ua/view.php?l=&id=0000000
010) .
 
And yes I will be seeking (and I expect obtaining) a full refund through my 
credit card company.
 
"George" (not my real name)

more...

Dear Jim,
thank you for your helpful information about Hanuma and Oleg Sedyshev (Syedeshev).  I did not pay any money for one of his services. But I have found a woman from Ukraine on a free website (Free Russian Personals). She has had contact to Mrs. Anastasiya Bantysh of agenca "Darina". Mrs. Bantish appeared to my fiancee as the nice girl next door to help lonesome girls. But she seems to be the right hand od Syedeshev.  Her webside "http://kievlove.co.ua/about.php?l="   And also interesting is "http://www.army-of-brides.com/ouraffiliates.html", where you will find her as partner of Hanuma Org.

Now we have the problem that my girl's profiles have to be deleted. It is not nice to see her man-seeking again and again. But all website only hide the profiles for some week, while the profile ID's are still listed. And then the old profiles turn up again.

I hope my letter did not bore you.
Kind regards.
****.

VERY interesting report from May '09

Jim:
I've always found Ukranian girls to be beautiful, so when a lady stopped on the street (Valentina) regarding meeting a Ukranian woman seeking an American man, I was intrigued. When she insisted that I pay $100 for the date, however, I became suspicious. So I googled the website, saw your piece, and learned that my suspicions were confirmed.