Why
is "Etoiles" (etoiles.com.ua) on my "Hell
No"
List?
Etoiles
(etoiles.com.ua)
In my OPINION...
Based on the reports that I have received...
It APPEARS that this site/agency...
This is a sample of
letters
from this
agency...
Hi Jim,
As always, thanks for your site.
If you remember a while back (see below), I asked you a question about
some
red flags with a certain girl from Odessa---Tatyana Dyomina.aka Tatyana
Demina.
I can say with certainty that she is a scammer working for the agency
etoiles.com.ua.
I highly recommend you blacklist her and that agency.
Many more red flags, inconsistencies in letters......
Well, now the direct request for money from the 'manager of the club"
She does not want to leave the club and she also refused my friend
request
on odnoklassnyki while the next day she sent me a letter and didn't
even mention it!
. I have attached a couple photos of her.
I have documented it here on this website:
http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/Forum/index.php?topic=10681.0
letter
exchange...
Hello ****!
Tanya brought us many photos yesterday, and we have completed
adjusting them today.
I am unsure Tanya will be able to pay for correspondence with you in
December herself, so I will offer you to.
It is correspondence with one man costs 100 USD a month, so either you
or Tanya has to pay for it, and I will remind Tanya and you the rules
of our agency that you cannot communicate with each other by any other
means but our agency, as it was we who introduced you to each other,
so using odnoklassniky or any other means is prohibited, and if you
did not know it, then Tanya knows it and I am sure will follow it. It
is the same we if a real estate shows you a house, you cannot rent or
by it, by contacting the owner directly, when you were introduced to
each other by a real estate agent. Tanya can only speak to you over
the phone.
Tanya corresponds with no one else but you at the moment, though we
have her profiles on the site, she does not wish to correspond with
anyone else. So she will not pay anything to correspond with anyone
else in December but you.
I will send you photos of Tanya and her family in a few e-mails.
Regards,
Ganna Vasylevska
I actually just got this today. A request for money for translations.
Funny,
how she was "paying" for translations at the time she first found me and
corresponded.
Also, note in the letter her answer to a question I had for her, as to
why
her supposed brother in law answered himself as "Toylka" and not Sasha
as
what was written. I assume this was a slipup by the agency.
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: <Tanechka@etoiles.com.ua>
Date: Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 12:02 PM
Subject: from Tanechka
To: ****@gmail.com
Hello, my dear ****,
I am very glad to receive your letter and to write to you now. You told
me
that you met with your friend and you went to play pool, and I wonder,
what
kind of game is it? I also wonder, is that city, Hamtramck, far from
yours?
How do you feel yourself now, has your state become better or worse by
now?
Do you have a temperature, and do you take any medicines? I hope that
perhaps it isn't flu but maybe you've just caught cold? You should drink
more green tea with lemon or raspberry jam, as it strengthens the
immunity
well and also takes out toxins. You know, when I am sick I prefer using
some
folk or homeopathic methods rather than chemical, for I think the last
can
just worsen some other aspects of your health along with healing a
certain
disease. Please, my dear ****, even if you don't have a wish to eat
because of feeling yourself badly, try to eat at least some light food
anyway, such as fruit and vegetables, a soup, or something like this,
as the
organism needs strengths to fight the disease and recover. And of
course, I
am very sorry that I am not by your side, for I would take a very good
care
of you and I am sure you would recover very quickly, and perhaps it
would be
even a risk that you might like being sick?: -)
What you've told me about Natasha's husband is a great mystery to me now
too, and the only thought that comes to me is that probably you just
misunderstood each other somehow? Because his name is Sasha, and yet we
don't have such name as Toylka at all, the only similar name is Tolyk,
but
why would he say it to you? The similar Russian word to Toylka is
Tolko, so
perhaps he just mentioned that word and you misinterpreted it somehow
and
thought that it was his name? I will certainly ask Sasha as soon as I
meet
him, perhaps he will give some clear explanations to us.
Of course, for me it will be important too to acquaint you with my
family,
for if we decide to get married, my family should know about my chosen
one
and also be sure that he wouldn't hurt me in another country and would
take
a good care of me, and I hope and believe that my family will like you,
for
I think you are a very good person, and that they will be glad for us
and
won't have many worries. And of course, if we decide to join our lives
and
be together, you won't be a stranger but I'd like you to feel like a
part of
our family. My relatives are simple, nice and kind people, and I think
they'll accept you well and you won't ever feel like a stranger. And of
course, I also hope that you'll like them too, as of course it's also
very
important to me.
My dear ****, I brought my photos to the club last time and I
thought
that they would be attached to my letter to you the same day, but as I
was
told today that they were sent to you later, for it was necessary to
process
them, and therefore the translator decided to send my letter to you
first,
so that you didn't have to wait for it, and then to send the photos in a
separate email.
To regret, I also have to talk with you about some unpleasant things in
this
letter. Today the manager Elena came to me and asked about the payment
for
December, and I was somewhat surprised, for to say the truth I thought
that
you were going to pay for this month, and I told to Elena of that. But
she
said that she contacted you about the payment also and you said that you
didn't plan to pay for December. And I just don't know what to do now,
for I
haven't saved any money to pay to the club, and I was let writing this
letter to you in credit. I paid for renting on Monday and I just have a
little money for myself for food and some other necessary things for the
month, I just wouldn't be able to afford it. Of course, it was our
mistake
that we didn't discuss it beforehand, but somehow I thought that you
would
keep paying for the services of the club, and from my part I would start
visiting English classes, at least a little, so that to learn at least
some
English by our meeting? I often talk with you in my mind, and I also had
such a clear picture of it, that I felt so as if we agreed about it,
but of
course we needed to discuss it in our letters. And now I feel very
confused
and I don't know what to do, and I have to ask you if you could still
pay
for December?
I also had a talk with the director Ganna, and she reminded me that it
was
banned to correspond with a man using any other means except for the
services of the club, and that I would have to pay a big fine if I
broke the
agreement. And of course I knew it, for when I applied to the club I was
informed in detail of their rules. Therefore you know it now why I
cannot
talk with you in Odnoklassnyki.
I know that you may not like it, but I really smoke, mainly socially
when I
am in a company of friends, or when I am nervous, but I try not to smoke
much. It is a big problem for you? And yes, that man in the photos is my
friend, my colleague from work, the same as the other people in our
company,
we all work together and have a very nice friendly collective.
About my political views, of course I cannot be sure in Litvin for
%100, but
still among all the other candidates he seems the most honest and
reasonable
politician to me, who would really take care of Ukraine and people
here. But
he got only %3 of the votes, because the main leaders here probably
still
remain Yuschenko, Timoshenko and Yanukovich, and the most number of
votes is
distributed among them exactly.
My dear ****, I am going to close my letter for now. Please, try to
rest
more, dress warmer and take a good care of yourself, I wish you to
recover
completely, and I also wish you a very nice and warm weekend.
Your Tanechka.
_______________________________________________________________________________________
This message above was translated and sent by Marriage Club in Odessa,
which
does
translations, e-mail forwarding, flowers and gifts delivery and tours to
Ukraine. You
may contact us by the following e-mail address: manager@etoiles.com.ua .
Please visit
our site at http://www.etoiles.com.ua
Etoiles (etoiles.com.ua)
